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&lt;div&gt;By :By :By :By :there doesn&#039;t have to be a day of reckoning.  you can just have an eocmony that grows at a slower rate than would be w/o deficits or stimulus.  there are deficits around the world because of a massive financial crisis.  budget deficits need to be brought under control but long term what needs to happen is that the national debt needs to stabilize.  it doesn&#039;t need to go away.There doesn&#039;t have to be a day of reckoning   but there will be if nothing is done with the current deficit levels and debt. We&#039;re around .9 debt/gdp ratio this year, and perhaps .8 or so after a recovery. That&#039;s a bad place to be either way. Healtcare makes things worse. Fighting multiple wars makes things worse. Government needs to cut spending AND raise taxes   and I&#039;m not convinced the political will exists to do it. The US, with its strong eocmony can do some tricks   inflation of the dollar transfers some of the burden to our creditors (causing us to lose some creditors). We&#039;re still the  safe heaven  investment choice when things go bad. We can artificially keep rates down longer. But we&#039;re slowly but surely blowing our reputation as being a country with a sound and conservative financial system (that we built up during the last century). There&#039;s no free lunch.the US 30 year is near 5%.  there are no worries about the US.  interest rates plunged during the crisis.  some short-term debt briefly went negative.  the market is not worried about the US paying anyone back.  of course we can&#039;t run huge deficits.Yeah, agree that for now we&#039;re ok and there&#039;s no immediate panic. Though, arguably, part of the reason rates are so low is because of manipulation by the Fed (or indirect manipulation by debt swaps with other central banks). But once you have debt/GDP &amp;gt; 1, things start to get challenging, and we may fall into a debt trap where servicing costs become too high to make a significant dent in the debt.our servicing costs are lower than they were in the 1990s.  people have been saying that interest rates are going to skyrocket.  they&#039;ve been saying it for years.  I&#039;ve thought that for years.  look up RRPIX or RYJUX and see how good that has gone for people.  I never thought we&#039;d run a 9% deficit and bonds would be so quiet.  clearly there is something going on that I and many other people can&#039;t comprehend.  just look at japan for an example.  until interest rates go higher I&#039;ll put myself down as someone who doesn&#039;t understand the bond market.  I don&#039;t have to waste time making excuses that way!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Random Information ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;em&amp;gt;(The following was added by random posters from General Discussions, and should be taken with a grain of salt.)&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally created by [[idimmu]] back in 1998 after stealing the source code from DM after he was presumed dead, hence his new name, [[Dead_Meat]]. There have been numerous sitings of this creature, most notably on the forums. If found, please report immediately to the Butchers Society, Dante&#039;s Back Yard, London, W12 B69.&lt;br /&gt;
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Stolen using a modified astropod by [[JammyJim]] whilst [[idimmu|idi]] was protecting his steroids (annabolic of course). &lt;br /&gt;
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In conclusion, go shag a camel.&lt;br /&gt;
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~Edited by ~[[Androme2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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ps. [[Tarantula]]s Ruled&lt;br /&gt;
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pps.&lt;br /&gt;
Silversmoke is a faggot!&lt;br /&gt;
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== General Discussions Regulars ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante Hicks]] is a rastafarian commie&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nodrog]] is ginger in 360 degrees and in all 4 dimensions&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Muslim]] is no longer a virgin yet every female in the world denies this...&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gayle30uk]] is a gay female 30 years of age living in the uk&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JonnyBGood]] is Paddy and drunk yet can type fluent English&lt;br /&gt;
*[[MrL_JaKiri]] is reading this with a dicktionarary&lt;br /&gt;
*[[YahweII]] was [[Yahwe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phang]] is a manchild with 2 dads&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Toccata &amp;amp; Fugue]] is a cowardly blonde turncoat who didn&#039;t take the chance to hit GWB&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew]] is a goff&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vaio]] abandoned his cat to the evil ex&lt;br /&gt;
*[[sword]] is cool &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;(Is he?)&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stew]] wants a mention&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ste]] Would like to point out he is not [[Stew]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dace]] likes little girls, especially Japanese school girls&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skiddy]] is one of [[Phang]]&#039;s dads. On weekends, he&#039;s the other one.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leshy]] attempts to make everyone use Opera&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sunday8pm]] is the only troll ever to fight off a billy goat.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silversmoke]] likes to emo hard over the opposite sex.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Demon Dave]] is upset because he didn&#039;t get a single mention.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Weeks]] is Skeew backwards, he is also a pedant&lt;br /&gt;
*[[SYMM]] got a first at university&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sniborp]] is cannon fodder, in every possible meaning of the phrase&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deepflow]] is fond of animal tranquilisers and really quite amiable&lt;br /&gt;
*[[pig]] loves sex and aston villa&lt;br /&gt;
*[[WorkMonkey]] IS STILL TROLLING LOLLERS @ UR MOMMA GOT HAXED, NUB.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dead_Meat]] is old lololololololololololol!!!!!!!1111111223&lt;br /&gt;
~Originally [[Nusselt]] wrote this &amp;amp; was ~Edited by ~[[Androme2]] ~Edited again by ~ [[Demon Dave]]&lt;br /&gt;
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